Question to the tiers

[Crosby]

I guess my problem starts with my age. After so many years you start getting tired of things and only want to deal with certain things that pertain only to what you do. This really comes to a a head when I am going to watch tiers. I persoanlly can't watch fly tying art anymore. I don't want to watch an artist that is not a fly fisherman and there are many out there.
I want to see why someone ties something as he does VS a fishing catching thought wave.Things he does because he has been on the water many times each year and has adapted patterns to a fishing catching
approach.
There are those out there that are great tiers as far as the artistic approach goes but put few days on the water each year, thus thier patterns are not tuned from experience but more from the visual perspective.
I like to know the tiers fishing history before I go to watch and learn from him.
Anybody else have a perspective ?

[THeBLender]

I think it's tied more to general life attitudes than age.

I'm totally about functionalitiy and have little interest in a fly only because it's "pretty". Not that I don't appreciate them and the skill they take to generate, just that I'm drawn much more strongly to something that actually works - in fly fishing as well as other areas.

[Fred]

Crosby, if it makes you fell better, I think that your leather leech and your bright red san juan worm are true works of art.

[CycleFish]

Here's an excellent thread that ties in well (haha) with this subject.

http://flyforums.proboards30.com/index.cgi?board=flytying&action=display&num=1102515126

[Crosby]

Fred- the SJ is now actually a mars magenta, just a shade off of the ever popular fireball fushia. And SHHHHHHHHHH about the LL - that's the SE Idahoian Hammerin Hank.

[Grizz]

One of my most productive droppers (hoppers) (torture) is branded the Ugly-Phu***r, fisherman scoff at the sight of it, fish must think it resembles a T-Bone with all the trimmings. Funny what fish eat fer sure.

peace

[RAW]

You got to be kidding me Crosby! Tiers who do not fish? That's weird! (I know they exist.) :)

Some of the stuff I do, I do to fulfill a creative urge. I do go out and fish the patterns and I do tie with the idea that I'm trying to mimic a hatch or simulate some type of motion the fish is looking for. Sometimes I just tie with an odd material or technique just to see what the outcome may be.

I've made a weird pattern and given it to someone to try. They come back and tell me it never got a look and then I go out and do well with it. The reverse has happened too, where I was given a "hot" pattern that really produced for someone and I go out and smell like a skunk with it.

I'm a little different when it come to watching other tiers. I just get bored watching guys who tie the old standbys, i.e., Wulffs, Hares Ears, PT's, Princes, Adams and such. Now if they throw in a new trick that makes the tying easier, I can go for that.