Spinner problem

[Drake]

I was looking through some of the fly pics and I came across this fly:

http://www.utahonthefly.com/flytying/flyarchive/bwospnnr.htm

It reminded me of tying this fly for the first time this past year. I had great success with it, but I struggled keep it on top. If I didn’t have a fish before the first 5 casts, it was so water logged it sunk on water contact. My questions is, what do you guys use for the wings? I have been using:

Tail- micro fibets
Body- Fine dubbing
Wing- Darlon

Is Zelon or Anton a better substitute? Or is it just me?

And yes, I used floatant.

Thanks, for any advice.

[Norm]

How about some CDC.

[Don]

My favorite material is the clear antron you can order from greycliff.com. It is the stuff that Gary Lafontain recomends.

The fact that it sinks just a little isnt' that bad. Most spiners fall and get caught right in the meniscus. Try using a parachute or other pattern ahead of the spinner and use the spinner as a dropper.

Other options are tying the same pattern, but adding a parachute post and hackle above the antron wing.

You can also use the micro foam that comes wrapped around your computer or vcr, and cut wings out of that foam.

[Rod Hog]

Zelon does not absorb water to the degree that Darlon and Antron do.

[cheech]

Snowshoe bunny floats pretty well too. Not as much of a pain as CDC.

If you like those types of patterns, you ought to ask Curtis Fry about his Fripple pattern. It is pretty dern realistic, and dead effective. The concept is to use a winging material like medallion sheeting, and then melt the wings. I'm sure he has more insight. DON'T YOU CURTIS....

[Drake]

Thanks for the responses.

Cheech, are Curtis' patterns similar to the pics I've attached? Jason posted these pics in a past thread. I think he used an iron to get the ribbed effect.

[cheech]

Thanks for the responses.

Cheech, are Curtis' patterns similar to the pics I've attached? Jason posted these pics in a past thread. I think he used an iron to get the ribbed effect.

Drake, they are similar to those, but he then takes a lighter to shrivel the wings so they look like they just came out of the wingcase. It's not a spinner pattern. It's an emerger, but you should try it all the same.

Those wings are cool though. Kip from Wrightway sports showed us all how to use the ironing technique.

[Drake]

Sounds cool. Thanks.

Curtis, if you get a chance, post a pic.

[Grizz]

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Those wings are cool though. Kip from Wrightway sports showed us all how to use the ironing technique.

WT fudge, Kip WHO? Us? All? Use an Iron?

How 'bout a para-adams for a spinner-tation? Cary?

p's

[cheech]

WT fudge, Kip WHO? Us? All? Use an Iron?

How 'bout a para-adams for a spinner-tation? Cary?

p's

You were there too. Put the flask away and pay attention next time.

[Curtis Fry]

Well here are some pics I took tonight. I started tying this pattern earlier this spring after wanting a better cripple and/or emerger pattern (I had hitherto used a no-hackle for the this type of situation). I watched a LOT of hatching bugs and noticed a large amount of them spent a long amount of time with their wings all crumpled up and stuck in the surface film. I figure the trout would rather eat a sitting duck. Its interesting to note how many fish will choose a cripple over an able-bodied adult. I had some VERY good days with this pattern and its earned a new compartment in my Beatis box. I fished it in tandem with other patterns and it did a lot better than most patterns I fished.

For the wings, I use Stalcup's metallic sheeting material and I singe the ends with a lighter (very slightly). The singe helps the wings to not tear up as well as making it look like crippled or emerging wings. The body is just olive goose biots, but I've used McClean's quill material as well. The thorax is a purple/black ice dubbing. These are tied in #20.

Anyhoo...if anyone's interested, here are the pics....

[Drake]

Thanks Curtis. Nice fly. Where did you buy the Stalcup's metallic sheeting material?

[Curtis Fry]

I believe this is the website:

http://www.cliponcommerce.com/catalog.asp?site_id=52971

It would be in the "Synthetics" section. Funny thing when I ordered stuff from them about three years ago (micro v-rib, metallic sheeting and some other stuff), they sent me the same order three times for the price of one. After the 2nd time I got the order (same stuff), I called and said hey, don't charge me for this, I can send it back. They said not to worry, it was their fault. Next month, same thing. No charge. Should have ordered more stuff....

[Jason]

You should be able to find madallion sheeting or metallic wing material at any local fly shop. Good pattern Curtis. I tie a few patterns that are similar. The medallion sheeting just looks so realistic and is fairly durable so even after a few fish the wings are still intact. Other wing materials you can use are CDC, snowshoe, hackle fibers, deer hair, foam, antron/darlon, unique hair, and metallic sheeting, etc. Most spinner patterns aren't good floaters so a little gink or powder floatant really makes a difference.

[RipRap]

I like to use Sparkle Organza. They sell it in fly shops, but you can pick it up at a fabric store (I think they use it to make gowns) for cheaper. Just pick it apart with a bodkin into strands and tie it in. Makes a wing that sparkles very nicely.

RR