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cfonnes
03-31-2004, 01:58 PM
I have been reading up on a little lake in the Uintahs that I plan to visit this summer. One article said that there was a lot of fresh water shrimp in the said lake. Anyone know what these look like and/or what a good imitation of them would be?

Lonnie
03-31-2004, 02:08 PM
I don't know if they are mysis shrimp or not, but I think these would be a good place to start.

http://images.google.com/images?q=mysis%20shrimp%20fly&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wi

Crosby
03-31-2004, 03:05 PM
it's a scud-

cfonnes
03-31-2004, 03:20 PM
Thanks for the help, I did not know that google had images.

Crosby
03-31-2004, 03:40 PM
Personally- though I do not know for a fact- I would lean against the fresh water shrimp being Mysis there.

Sumner Newman
03-31-2004, 03:43 PM
http://www.bcadventure.com/adventure/angling/protalk/rowley/scuds.phtml

If you fish stillwaters, you'll do well to carefully study and learn these insects and how to fish them well. On most of the stillwaters I fish, I generally have about 10-12 of the little critters on my waders as I get out of the water. They are prolific, trout love them, and I probably catch more fish on my scud pattern than any other pattern with the exception of chironomids, of course. Behind, chironomids, they are No. 2 on the stillwater menu for trout.

And yes, mysis shrimp and scuds are different critters. Mysis are important in a select few waters (one that comes to mind is a famous tailwater in Colorado), but it's the scud (Gammarus and Hyalella) that you want to imitate in western stillwaters.

Lonnie
03-31-2004, 04:16 PM
Personally- though I do not know for a fact- I would lean against the fresh water shrimp being Mysis there.

I think I would agree since they are native to scandinavia.... :-) It might work however....

PowerBaitHeppy
03-31-2004, 04:41 PM
there are Mysis Shrimp in some Utah lakes. I don't know if there are any in the Uintahs, but I do know that Fish Lake has Mysis, and so does Blind Lake on the Boulders...

Jason
03-31-2004, 05:17 PM
Most likely they're referring to scuds. I've never heard of mysis being in the uintahs. PBH, maybe you could check with some of your contacts. And not to be too picky, but they're not actually shrimp. They look like little shrimp, but they're actually a crustacean.

http://www.utahonthefly.com/entomology/crustac/scudset.htm

Señorfish
03-31-2004, 06:46 PM
I thought shrimp were crustaceans?

So are crab, lobster, crayfish, ect.

Am I wrong?

Crosby
03-31-2004, 08:10 PM
Think you are correct

Grizz
03-31-2004, 08:23 PM
ya see, you've got bb-q shrimp, shrimp creole, pinapple shrimp, butter fly shrimp, shrimp cocktail, cajun shrimp, popcorn shrimp, etc, etc, etc......

& that's all I've got to say 'bout that.

peace

Trouty
04-01-2004, 01:22 AM
LOL

My name is For-rest. For-rest Gump.

carpman
04-01-2004, 02:44 AM
To my knowledge there are no Mysis shrimp in Utah. There are lots of Scuds (Gammarus and Hyalella, as Sumner pointed out) I've heard of the ever elusive "freshwater shrimp", but I've never witnessed one. I think they are kind of like a Mexican fishing license, they do exist, but nobody's ever SEEN one........

Wyoming2utah
04-01-2004, 03:49 PM
Both Fish Lake and Blind Lake on the Boulder Mountains were stocked with mysis shrimp many years ago...it is believed that populations still exist in both lakes and that small lake trout in Fish Lake and splake in Blind use them as a food source in the deeper portions of the lakes.

Lonnie
04-02-2004, 01:10 PM
PBH sent this to me so I could post it. It show Mysis in Fish Lake. I just glanced at it but found it pretty interesting. It looks like there are (or at least used to be) some big boys down there....

Lonnie

http://home.comcast.net/~shullln/Lake_trout_diets.pdf

tightline
04-28-2004, 04:41 PM
I know for a fact that I have seen crustaceans in the Uintahs that are over 2" when straightened out. Not sure what they are but they are not scuds. The two lakes they are in grow huge Cutts. I recommend you pay more attention to crustaceans when in the high country. It is the difference between the lakes with the snakes and the lakes with the hogs. They are there if you look in the high stuff you can find them.