Tiger Muskie Flies

[Jason]

Here's a few tiger muskie flies that Carpman recommends for Tigers at Pineview. This was from his Tiger Muskie presentation last spring.

[nightfish]

I missed that presentation...damn night shift...need to do something about it.

So do tiger muskie ever hit surface stuff? Frogs, poppers, etc? I want to bag one really bad, but it would be better if there was a flash of teeth in a splashy rise.

[cfonnes]

Here's a few tiger muskie flies that Carpman recommends for Tigers at Pineview. This was from his Tiger Muskie presentation last spring.


I wonder what Pavlik recommends.

[lone Palm Rods]

I love stalking the murky shallows stripping large flies for big toothy fish.................. yyeeeeeee hhhhaaaaaaaaaaa


"muskie/pike flyfisherman give blood on a regular basis" kid futz '02

[cfonnes]

How deep to you usually let the fly go when fishing for the prehistoric looking monsters?

[Slayer]

I just got a new 8wt reel last night for my 8wt rod specifically for chasing these toothy monsters. What Fly line do you guys recomend? I've heard a fast sink tip floating line.

[Lonnie]

Hey our buddy Pavi is only 16. I tied pretty crappy flies at that age too. Some folks still say I tie pretty crappy flies. When he's 30 he'll probably out tie all of us. I actually sent him an e-mail the other day telling him he should visit UTOF more often. I think he's a good kid, and you gotta give him credit for trying to start a biz at that age. I think he could learn a lot from some of the folks here. But don't try to sell us your flies bud....:-)

Lonnie

[Ouzel]

Carpman! Nice flies and nice use of Mc Lean's (?) ribbed materials. The Perch look should do well in Pineview and other lakes that have perch in the food chain.

Slayer: unless yon are going after them in deep water a floating line for shore work and a intermediate line for a little deeper water will serve. Esox are ambush hitters and they've learned 'most' of their food will be in the shallower water.

If you see one following strip faster and don't forget a 12" section of 20 lb. shock tippit. I've always used reg. mono but there is now other stuff available. Your leader can be a little shorter and heavier to ficilitate turnover.

[Jason]

I believe Carpman stalks them from shore and uses a floating line. If you were fishing from a boat/toon then maybe a sink tip or intermediate line would work best while stripping away from the shallows. I don't have my notes with me at the moment so I'm no help on what your tippet/leader setup should be. I do know that you've gotta use steel tippet tied to the fly.

[lone Palm Rods]

I chase them a lot in the shallows and have a lot of follows, denials and strikes in 3' of water or less. I use a 6wt. with floating line and a fine wire tippit. I try and post some picture of the flies I use in the next day or so.

Pick up the book "Pike on a fly" by: Barry Reynolds. it has some great tips. Fish tech also use to rent a video on pike by Barry Reynolds and it has some good info along with Barry testing out how sharp their teeth are. Carpman could probably tell us if they still rent it.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1555661130/002-8861684-9018436?v=glance

[Splat]

Wire leader isn't neccessary if you use 20# flourocarbon. I've caught a 40" Tiger with 3/0 stainless salt water hooks and 8wt. intermediate sinking line. Great fun!! Poor mans freshwater bone fishing.

[carpman]

I usually use a sink tip line. Only 12 feet of the line sink, so I don't get too deep, but it sinks enough that you are not wasting time waiting for the fly to sink. You can cover more water this way.

Wire shock leaders are nice, as is fluoro. In my experience you need heavier than 20 pound fluoro, more like 60 or 80 pound, but it will work. Personally I like to use Mason, hard type mono in 25 pound. This material is designed for shock leader. It is 25 pound test, but it's about 50 pound diameter and is VERY VERY hard so the fish don't cut through it. It is clear, so the fish aren't shy of it, and it's quite inexpensive, so I'm not afraid to change flies.

Go try the Tigers this year, and prepare to be frustrated!!!..........