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nightfish
11-26-2002, 11:16 AM
Ok, I bought some kevlar thread and some sculpin wool, but I'm having a hard time figuring this stuff out. I've spun deer, elk & antelope before, but not with the kevlar. For some reason the stuff just stays in clumps with this thread and more flops around the hook rather than spinning. Am I doing something wrong or is there a trick for the thread or wool?

Crosby
11-26-2002, 03:27 PM
I have always just tied the wool on by xing the thread over it-
never have tried dubbing or spinning it.

cheech
11-26-2002, 04:47 PM
I think it is ideal to use when stacking. It doesn't flare enough to spin. You just have to stack it on the top, then the bottom, then you can pack it tight together.
Cheech

Grizz
11-26-2002, 08:05 PM
Are ya tyin woolhead sculpin patterns?? When I tie 'em I just cut the wool off the patch and spin it in a dubbing loop then trim the head to shape. Makes a gnarly rope.

Teewinot
11-26-2002, 08:17 PM
Grizz

Do you trap beavers. I met a guy named Grizz up in Logan that would stop in at Renegade Sports every now and then, just wondering if that was you?

nightfish
11-26-2002, 08:19 PM
I intended to tie sculpins, but then remembered an awesome sardine pattern a friend from MO sent me (it's a snook KILLER). Thought it'd make a great pattern for fall browns in different colors, and tigers in bigger sizes. Tried stacking, that's where I had trouble. The clump kept rolling around the shank. Thanks for the tips for sculpins, I'll try those, but what am I doing wrong for stacking?

cheech
11-26-2002, 09:14 PM
when you are stacking wool, or hair etc. It is important to hold it into place, make three regular wraps, and then without letting go of the clump, sinch those 3 wraps tight. You can make more wraps if you want. If you are holding them in place as you cinch, the clump shouldn't spin. If you want to spin hair, you let go of the clump as you start to cinch.

Cheech

nightfish
11-26-2002, 09:35 PM
Thanks Cheech. After thinking about it, I was trying to stack on a bare shank. Would underwraps help stabilize the hair?

cheech
11-26-2002, 11:07 PM
If you are stacking, the thread base helps out a lot, but when I spin hair, I actually prefer to do it on a bare shank. It spins very easily. I have been trying a technique that I read in a magazine about a year ago. You start the thread in the back, and barely attach it. Tie in your tail, or whatever you want to put in the back. Tie in the collar by stacking it (not spinning). Then when you get to the part where you are going to spin the hair, do it on the bare hook shank. After each clump of hair, tie a half hitch, and then (with tweezers) shove the half hitch toward the bend of the hook. Repeat until you reach the eye. This is a very effecitve way to spin and pack deer hair. It should be so tight that you have to use a razor blade to cut it. I hope you can understand my poor explanation.

Cheech