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Ouzel
11-06-2002, 06:50 AM
or sometimes called Inventory Time.
I started by trying to decide which flies I would be tying this winter. Replacing standard flies I use yearly was the easy part.
Then deciding which flies (hatches) I've found succesful this year was the next.
Then which flies (hatches) on distant waters, etc.
At the same time developing a list of materials needed which leads to checking what I have and what I need to buy.
Always need a vareity of hooks, that's another easy.
So I start digging into 'The Box' and around my bench and checking off supplies in hand. What I found is I think 'the stuff' may have some latent breeding power. My stuff now has stuff of its own. I have stuff I did not even remember I had (that may be a personal deficentcy) and some of it still in a unused packet.
Some of this stuff is older than many of you, raise your hands if you still have a dozen or more items from "Herters", WHO?
One of the old sporting supply houses that put out a catalog larger then most telephone books. They had everything inculding tying, hunting, fishing and camping tips. Great catalog, I kid you not.
Am I going to toss out any of these items? Of course not, by now they have some kind of 'squaters rights' like old tools you have not used in years in your garage. Many can raise your hands to that.
Will I stop this infernal habit of buying material for a new fly I want to try or using a new material on a old fly. Big time NO.
Many of the new materials are better than the old and make tying easier, cool.
I still think dubbing was developed by a guy who ran out of yarn.
The new materials can give a sheen to flies to make them more natural or noticeable.
Still I do need to make space for this new stuff and keep the old,'just in case', of what I don't know. Nuclear Winter, Ice Age?
I thought about building a bigger box, no don't go there, you'd just fill that one too, nitwit, you've got to learn self control better. Ya right.
I could fish less, ya right. I don't get to fish enough now, how am I going to use up this stuff? I could stop taking my tying kit with me and not tie some evenings, ya right. I could buy the flies I need and do away with tying, no, I like tying, I like trying new materials and patterns, stuff yourself.
Finally, I think when I'm picking up some hooks and a few new itmes I do NEED I'll control myself and not buy any stuff I already have, and do use, but have 47 of. Remember the discussion about 'Black Thread'?
Still, I would like to try some of the newer thinner threads, only a couple of extra items and inexpensive.
Ya, right.

jdubya
11-06-2002, 03:18 PM
There aren't many around here in the stores hence the mailorder route, which means I haven't ordered any 'casue I don't know what to order.

What kind of thinner threads?

Larry S.
11-06-2002, 05:37 PM
That was what I was trying to get across on Mr. Loopy's post a ways back when he asked what materials to get. It is easy to find yourself wallowing in the stuff in no time and like you say, that is the fun of it.

I have moved my "stuff" out of one room and down to the basement where it has been hard to get to. I have to do some serious organizing but don't envision throwing anything out.

Are you talking about the thinner threads like Gordon Griffith's 14/0 and such? That is good stuff once you get your fingers adjusted to the breaking strength.

Ouzel
11-07-2002, 01:13 AM
Exactly Larry, I use 0/8 for the small flies and don't 'seem' to have a problem but would just like to try this thinner thread to obtain smoother/slimer bodies.
You know, just a couple of extra items.

Uppertite
11-07-2002, 03:45 AM
That is incredible. I tend to break anything smaller then rope when I tie.

carpman
11-07-2002, 06:27 AM
Fish Tech carries UNI 8/0, Gordon Griffiths 14/0, and UNI 17/0. Several colors are available for those who like tiny flies.................

jdubya
11-07-2002, 03:49 PM
i tie most of my flies in 8/0 just to control the bulk, but have not seen the smaller threads locally. i'll have to have mickey show me where they are in the store. they must make tying the size 20 and smaller flies much easier.

jlo
11-07-2002, 05:22 PM
It lies very flat and comes in good assortment of colors. Much better than Uni which is a rounder thread and doesn't lie down as flat.

flyty
11-07-2002, 08:16 PM
Even though I've read that UNI 8/0 is not a "twisted" thread, I have no problem taking the twist out if I want the thread to lie flatter. In fact, I find that I have to occassionally put the twist back in when I'm tying.

Strike II
11-08-2002, 04:23 AM
Check out this website, and call Denis. He told me about some really thin thread that is 14/0 and has the strenth of 6/0. I don't remember what it's called other than I really like the way it ties. I need to get some other colors of this stuff!!! Very reasonable too, I think it's under 2 bucks. Denis has lots of good stuff at good prices. He is located in West Valley, so you can pick it up if you are in the area, or he'll ship it to you.

cheech
11-08-2002, 05:20 PM
That is the Gordon Griffith's 14/0. I use it for about everything except deer hair work.

Cheech

Strike II
11-09-2002, 02:51 AM
Does Denis have anything else you really like?

cheech
11-11-2002, 06:30 AM
it that intended to be a smart alec remak here, or are you serious? you are throwing me through a loop here..... or are you talking about the ABI's. I love those things.

Cheech

MWSpearo
11-11-2002, 06:14 PM
The 14/0 is great stuff. It does not work so well if you need to build up head as on a clouser.

I agree with Cheech on the ABI's. He's right on that one. (unlike the lenghts and weights of the fish he catches)

Strike II
11-12-2002, 12:15 AM
My friend I didn't mean it as a smart comment, I was simply asking you if there is any other killer materials Dennis has that you like to use. I haven't seen this thread anywhere else. I absolutly love using it. Although I'm not too sure what to do with the other thread I still have....

Hey guys on the ABI hooks, those are the best! I need to get some ABIs that are similar to the tiemco 200R.

cheech
11-12-2002, 04:43 PM
I see what you were saying. I usually buy everything I can from Dennis. I love the pheasant tails that he sells because he will let you choose them. you can always get the center tails instead of getting the side tails that have shorter fibers, and only 1 side of useable fibers. I mostly like to go there to shoot the breeze about stillwater. It's nice to talk to someone who has been at it for a LONG time. You are right about the ABI's though. $7 per 100, and side by side with a Tiemco, they are every bit as sharp, and strong.

Cheech

MWSpearo
11-12-2002, 09:19 PM
is a cool guy. His stuff is the best and he always is helpful. What is worth the most is not just the values but the information.

I look at the progress Cheech has made in still water ability and it is incredible. Dennis has had alot to do with it. Before talking to Dennis Cheech couldn't even hardlyhis the water with a fly let alone catch fish.