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cromero68
09-17-2008, 05:22 AM
Fished the MP just below the Jordanelle Dam this evening. The water was fast and cold, lots of bugs (midges) but no takers that I noticed. I tried a green poly v yarn strike indicator and didn't like the cast. I seem to like a large dry fly as the strike indicator and a beadhead nymph as a dropper. It is easier for me to cast and I caught two small cutties on the north slope using that rig last week. Thought I would try a manufactured strike indicator to see how it worked anyways. I might try some of the other designs mentioned in my "strike indicator" thread. Just having a good time experimenting and learning how to fly fish!
blowfly
09-17-2008, 06:00 AM
yep, dry dropper tends to work just fine i'd say
FLYGODELITIST
09-19-2008, 09:19 AM
I would still run a hopper, copper, and dropper through there, use floro just be on the safe side. peace out fly boys
bushrat311
09-19-2008, 03:52 PM
I would still run a hopper, copper, and dropper through there, use floro just be on the safe side. peace out fly boys
3 flies...not exactly kosher here in Utah
JeffS
09-22-2008, 02:37 AM
3 flies...not exactly kosher here in Utah
Please explain. I typically would max out at two but are three not legal? Read a lot about set ups with three flys. I'm new to the area and just wondering why this response?
Jeff
nightfish
09-22-2008, 03:01 AM
Two flies is the legal maximum in Utah. Other states, such as Colorado, allow three.
JeffS
09-22-2008, 03:27 AM
Good to know, thank you.
Wouldn't typically consider anyway, more to tangle, snag and/or lose.
Jeff
FLYGODELITIST
09-22-2008, 05:17 AM
That's why you really can't CAST this rig, you just have to wait till the end of the drift and let the water load everthing up and then side cast/toss everthing back into the fishy run, John Barr has an excellent video out there on "how to" sucessfully fish this rig. It was deadly last fall in Idaho's Box Canyon.I caught some large fish. Strike indicators have their purpose, and alot of us like to use them, as soon as Big JAKE come up and inhales that yarn/ballon thing I bet you will wish you had on something big with a hook on it. Any dropper will get a deep fish looking up, then it's a matter choice if he feels like a snack or a dinner, besides the larger top fly IS THERE to intice that strike. Thankx B.rat311 for the 3 fly infro. for Utah, it would of been a waste of time to drive down from the Hole next month only to get the infro. from some fly shop.( Boy, I really would have looked stupid) So 1 less fishman on your public waters, who will now have to spend his money in Montana, Id.and Wyoming, boy the choices we have in life. Peace out flyboys.
mvtoro
09-24-2008, 07:33 PM
You know, once upon a time, fly fishermen would sometimes fish with but ONE FLY at a time. Very archaic.
You should try New Mexico. Ulimited fly use. Unless it's a trot line. Then you're limited to 25.
You know, once upon a time, fly fishermen would sometimes fish with but ONE FLY at a time. Very archaic.
Thats me. Unless its an ant or beetle behind a larger dry... For practical reasons, mostly. I loose flies at half the rate of others.
I think this multiple fly rig stuff was a twisted plot in order to sell more flies. Lets see, who invented the Hopper copper dropper (well, "point" fly, but it dont rhyme). Isnt that dude a commercial fly guy?
mvtoro
09-24-2008, 09:57 PM
Thats me. Unless its an ant or beetle behind a larger dry... For practical reasons, mostly. I loose flies at half the rate of others.
I think this multiple fly rig stuff was a twisted plot in order to sell more flies. Lets see, who invented the Hopper copper dropper (well, "point" fly, but it dont rhyme). Isnt that dude a commercial fly guy?
No way. It's obviously a purely altruistic recommendation. He's only one of a million commercial tyers, he's no more likely than any of the million others to benefit specifically on sales of B/C Hoppers and Copper Johns... oh wait.
ByteMe
09-24-2008, 10:20 PM
Usually when I'm fishing a hopper I want to get it right up against the bank, just inches away, or even back under that over hanging grass and twigs. That's where I find the good fish. I love the challenge of tucking that fly right up there close and snug. It tests my casting skills, but with a dropper I can't get that hopper as close without getting snagged up. Now, not all water that is fished with a hopper requires you get it really tight, but even on those waters where you don't want it right against the bank you'll still want to be able to curve that fly at the end of your cast to get the best drift. When I fish with a dropper I can't get the hopper to turn over that last foot or two of leader just so that the fly is drifting optimally. You know the water along the edge is slower and getting the tippet and leader upstream from your fly will give you that extra second or two of drift that can make the difference between enticing that big one out that hole or not.
Someone wise once told me that when it comes to catching fish there can be a big difference between two inches and two feet.
Usually when I'm fishing a hopper I want to get it right up against the bank, just inches away, or even back under that over hanging grass and twigs. That's where I find the good fish. I love the challenge of tucking that fly right up there close and snug. It tests my casting skills, but with a dropper I can't get that hopper as close without getting snagged up. Now, not all water that is fished with a hopper requires you get it really tight, but even on those waters where you don't want it right against the bank you'll still want to be able to curve that fly at the end of your cast to get the best drift. When I fish with a dropper I can't get the hopper to turn over that last foot or two of leader just so that the fly is drifting optimally. You know the water along the edge is slower and getting the tippet and leader upstream from your fly will give you that extra second or two of drift that can make the difference between enticing that big one out that hole or not.
Someone wise once told me that when it comes to catching fish there can be a big difference between two inches and two feet.
I'll second that motion there is a HUGE difference between 2' and 2'' ; )
JoeDaddy
09-24-2008, 11:13 PM
I'll second that motion there is a HUGE difference between 2' and 2'' ; )
Yeah, I've noticed that in my own performance ;)
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