The Utah

[Grizz]

Admit it, it's a pretty great state & life has never been more elevated.

Statute.

old school books with iPod looks.

peace

[MuseJr]

Admit it, it's a pretty great state & life has never been more elevated.

Statute.

old school books with iPod looks.

peace

Ok I'll admit... It's a great state.
Glad I live here.

[TS30]

I'll add my vote. Although not perfect, there is no place I'd rather live.

[PowerBaitHeppy]

Minivan keeps coming back....

[jonescort]

Not many other places offer the fishing of here.

[styan]

Not many other places offer the fishing of here.

You should double up on the English classes this semester.....

[Cary]

what are you guys doing over here, all the action is on the other thread.

[styan]

what are you guys doing over here, all the action is on the other thread.

How many times can you read another Turd Snapper post about what an imbecile he is?

[catahoula cur]

Yeah, I just had some similar action on the porcelain throne. Big steaming pile of action. Utah's bringing up the rear of my top 5. Kinda like some of my ex's. Not a bad place to pullover for awhile, but getting stuck here would hinder my path toward enlightenment.

[brookieguy1]

Best brook trout fishing in the U.S. Plus bigger river browns than Montana. Maybe not bigger average, but there are bigger fish.

[blackdog]

You guys need to travel more. Utah sucks.

"Bigger river Browns then Montana"? Where? The Green or the Provo, the rivers of the incredible shrinking fish.

[RipRap]

Yes, Utah is a great state....and I've lived in plenty. Glad I decided to settle down here. Plenty of fish to keep a man happy.

I like the new plate also.

[Minivan]

Fishing in Utah is sort of like eating at Chuck-A-Rama. It is a short drive, it doesn't cost much, there is variety, but the product is nothing exceptional.

[Marty]

Ya but take a short 26 hour drive and you can be in the best steelheading in the world.

I love this state and I love its fish, even a tiger or two

[MuseJr]

You guys need to travel more.


I'll take that in to consideration.

Sorry Grizz, I was just informed I don't know what I'm talking about. Ignore my response to this thread.

[RipRap]

Yeah, maybe nothing exceptional. But Utah does have its secrets if you are willing to drive a little further and hike a little longer.

[F/V Gulf Ventur]

Ya but take a short 26 hour drive and you can be in the best steelheading in the world.

I love this state and I love its fish, even a tiger or two

LOL... yeah, and its only 38 hours to the best Giant Blue Fin Tuna fishing in the world!!!

[catahoula cur]

And only a couple short days of plane, helicopter and yak rides to the best taimen fishing in the world. We are so lucky!

[brookieguy1]

You guys need to travel more. Utah sucks.

"Bigger river Browns then Montana"? Where? The Green or the Provo, the rivers of the incredible shrinking fish.No, not the Green or Provo. I'm talking the Weber or the Logan. Both have had several browns over 20 pounds caught in them. Like I said, the average fish may be bigger out of the Madison or Beaverhead, but the biggest fish by far have come out of Utah Rivers. Of course, the lakes they run through here help their growth. I doubt those huge browns are full time residents of the rivers.

[brookieguy1]

Yeah, maybe nothing exceptional. But Utah does have its secrets if you are willing to drive a little further and hike a little longer.+1 RipRap. Find 'em high!

[Marty]

And only a couple short days of plane, helicopter and yak rides to the best taimen fishing in the world. We are so lucky!

That is next years trip want to go, only we will be on horseback.

[catahoula cur]

That is next years trip want to go, only we will be on horseback.
Yeah, give me dates and prices and let's go fishing once or twice and I'll scrimp for that trip. I love Tuvan throat singing.

[mike doughty]

beautiful state, but run by religion

[blackdog]

No, not the Green or Provo. I'm talking the Weber or the Logan.

The Weber or the Logan? LMAO.

[rodrick]

The Weber or the Logan? LMAO.

I think you have to travel more in this state. I have traveled Montana many times for many years and have experienced incredible fishing . I have also caught incredible fish in Utah and it wasn't on any of the rivers mentioned. I also wouldn't feel terrible if I landed a job in Missoula for awhile. I could float a different section of a river there every day and feel pretty good about it.

[Nich]

beautiful state, but run by religion

No Doughty say it isn't so ; )

[BugEye]

beautiful state, but run by religion

True that! Mike Doughty speaks it....

[chris]

You religion talkers need to post on the SLtrib forums, not here. This is fishing.

[BugEye]

You religion talkers need to post on the SLtrib forums, not here. This is fishing.

Thanks Dad!

Funny thing is when you look at the opening post, one sees the word "elevated", but not the words "fish" or "fishing". Guess it's up to interpretation.

;-)

[TS30]

I don't know, Chris' post count is 3 times yours BE, I'm going to have to side with him because of that. :) JMTC WADR

[chris]

Useful posts laddies, useful.

[TS30]

I love Montana and Idaho, although I have not spent a ton of time there. But Utah is home, and really is second to none when you take all the opportunities for outdoor recreation.

Sure, there are better places to fly fish, there are better places to hunt big game, geese, pheasants, etc. But nowhere that I'm aware of has all the activities at such a high level. Not many places you can ski in the morning and golf in the afternoon, then cast to a hatch in the evening all in the same day because they are all so close to each other. Not many places you can spend one weekend in the backcountry in a place like the Boulders, Uintas, etc and then the next weekend be at a place like Lake Powell. It may not be perfect, but it is the best place in the world to me.

[Nich]

I love Montana and Idaho, although I have not spent a ton of time there. But Utah is home, and really is second to none when you take all the opportunities for outdoor recreation.

Sure, there are better places to fly fish, there are better places to hunt big game, geese, pheasants, etc. But nowhere that I'm aware of has all the activities at such a high level. Not many places you can ski in the morning and golf in the afternoon, then cast to a hatch in the evening all in the same day because they are all so close to each other. Not many places you can spend one weekend in the backcountry in a place like the Boulders, Uintas, etc and then the next weekend be at a place like Lake Powell. It may not be perfect, but it is the best place in the world to me.

Tru dat TS tru dat!

[RipRap]

Utah isn't perfect, but it's a good place to live. It still seems to be a low-key state and kind of ignored in a way, but I can't think of a better state to raise a family in. Yeah, it's mostly republican, but you can't hold that against her. :)

[mike doughty]

No Doughty say it isn't so ; )

i wouldn't bullshit ya nich.............it's true, but i do love the area, it caters to all my hobbies

[mike doughty]

You religion talkers need to post on the SLtrib forums, not here. This is fishing.

what are you a moderator now????????? where's those damn ants????????????

[chris]

what are you a moderator now????????? where's those damn ants????????????

I've always been a moderator. Haven't you seen? I'm into everything.

Funny you should ask about the ants. Colby dropped his off last night and I have yet to see Lewis' show in the mail. Once I have his they will be out within 48 hours. You can only keep asking so often.

[UtahFlyGuy]

Chris, do I have to bail this swap out? If Lewis bails I can have them tied in a night.

[chris]

Chris, do I have to bail this swap out? If Lewis' bails I can have them tied in a night.

You can add to it if you like. Everyone but jones tied more than the # in the swap so I would be damn proud to have you.

[TS30]

Chris, do I have to bail this swap out? If Lewis' bails I can have them tied in a night.

UFG, the ultimate team player. I nominate ya Pat for UTOF MVP! You're one fine American. :)

[UtahFlyGuy]

You can add to it if you like. Everyone but jones tied more than the # in the swap so I would be damn proud to have you.

So whats the count? 10?

[chris]

So whats the count? 10?

9 with you I think, Lonnie is a false entry.

[UtahFlyGuy]

9 with you I think, Lonnie is a false entry.

Aight..........I'll get on it.

[chris]

Aight..........I'll get on it.

Morph of a swap, love it. Thanks Pat, you can have my jones fly.

[UtahFlyGuy]

UFG, the ultimate team player. I nominate ya Pat for UTOF MVP! You're one fine American. :)

........And I might add the Strawberry Extraordinaire BBQ Chef.

Chris its an honor to participate.

[F/V Gulf Ventur]

You guys need to travel more. Utah sucks.

"Bigger river Browns then Montana"? Where? The Green or the Provo, the rivers of the incredible shrinking fish.

Best brook trout fishing in the U.S. Plus bigger river browns than Montana. Maybe not bigger average, but there are bigger fish.


Let see some pics fellas ; ) River fish only.

[mike doughty]

........And I might add the Strawberry Extraordinaire BBQ Chef.

Chris its an honor to participate.

what an ass kisser......................

[F/V Gulf Ventur]

what an ass kisser......................

.........I know who is getting the second best ties out of the bunch ; )

[chris]

what an ass kisser......................

You have seen my ass. In waders too. Fine piece of ass huh.

[BugEye]

what an ass kisser......................

chris expects nothing less.

;-)

[chris]

chris expects nothing less.

;-)

Useful post, useful. Get over me.

[BugEye]

Useful post, useful. Get over me.

Don't flatter yourself 'cause Ima waayy over you big boy. Just haven some fun. Don't get nasty again and start callin' names. Perhaps get over yer' self and join the rest of us mortals. ;-) Life's too short for all the anger. ;-)

[chris]

Don't flatter yourself 'cause Ima waayy over you big boy. Just haven some fun. Perhaps get over yer' self and join the rest of us mortals. ;-) Life's too short for all the anger. ;-)

So keep postin about me then ol sage.

[UtahFlyGuy]

what an ass kisser......................

I dont let women out fish me either...........Oh SNAP!!!!!!


http://www.utahonthefly.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19374

[BugEye]

So keep postin about me then ol sage.

Yeah, occasionally callin' you on your bs is more entertaining by the day. Thanks again Obi Wan! The gift that keeps on givin'.

;-)

[chris]

Yeah, occasionally callin' you on your bs is more entertaining by the day. Thanks again Obi Wan! The gift that keeps on givin'.

;-)

Show me a time you have called me on any bs. Show me. Come on show me.

[TS30]

Yeah, occasionally callin' you on your bs is more entertaining by the day. Thanks again Obi Wan! The gift that keeps on givin'.

;-)

Once again BE, based upon post count......(insert whatever credibility hooplah you were referring to previously here)

[chris]

Once again BE, based upon post count......(insert whatever credibility hooplah you were referring to previously here)

I don't know TS, you and BE have been around relatively the same amount of time and have a relatively close post count. Let just say you have been around as long as me, cloopclickboradanickto, post count higher than mine. Simple math, your credibility just shot way up.
I'm still waiting for my helping of bs.

[Cary]

c/mon Chris & Bug, get a room, throw down some plastic, get some olive oil, and wrestle it all out of your systems.

Snapper can sit in the corner and cheer ya'll on.

[RipRap]

Leave it to you guys to turn yet another thread perverted......

[chris]

c/mon Chris & Bug, get a room, throw down some plastic, get some olive oil, and wrestle it all out of your systems.

Snapper can sit in the corner and cheer ya'll on.


That is just great. I'm about to have a nice lunch with my wife and you put that out there. Fudging gross dude. How bout a sandbox I can bury his head in or maybe get sand in his lenses.

[chris]

Leave it to you guys to turn yet another thread perverted......


You wanna read a sick story... this made me gag.
I answer my phone the other night. Chattin with my wife outside and my phone rings. I don't know the # I just answer it. Guy says, "Hey Chris, what you wearing?" I say "A pair a shorts and a long sleeve t." Not knowing the voice yet I say, "what you wearing?" as my wife looks at me strangely. This guy says, "nothing." I immediately say, "Who is this?" He says, "Cort." I say, "That is a federal offense, don't ever call me and say that shit again." He wanted to go fishing, I said "No".

[BugEye]

Show me a time you have called me on any bs. Show me. Come on show me.

Nah, last time I did that here you got nasty and completely off subject without even answering the original question. By-gons. Learned my lesson and not your best hour either.

What I meant is I just think it's funny how seriously you take yourself sometimes and like to flip you some $hit from time to time about it. That's all. Nothing personal really as its pretty self evident to the masses. Usually happens when someones got the scoop on some high desert ditch you've fished since you were about five and posts it here. Whoa! Look out. 150 post later, nuthin's established and the pissin' contest rages on. Happens 'bout once a week. Which is okay, what else would folks like TS and others do all day if there wasn't a topic, ANY TOPIC, to throw their pennies into. And like I said it can be quite entertaining.

So I like to flip some shit. I can certainly take it. Can you? Certainly brings out the best...

c/mon Chris & Bug, get a room, throw down some plastic, get some olive oil, and wrestle it all out of your systems.

Snapper can sit in the corner and cheer ya'll on.

Now THAT is funny Cary. But can we do canola, I'm on a diet.

;-)

[mike doughty]

Your posts always seem to bring out the best in people grizz. damn utards! that's a joke son

[styan]

The Utah travel industry would have us think of the state as an outdoors paradise – a playground filled with ski resorts and golf courses.

Utah is also home to millions of Mormons and their religious beliefs forbid the use of drug or alcohol in any form. So you might expect to find a state with low drug use. Yet this beautiful state has a dark side that is not often mentioned – Utah residents and school children are using drugs and alcohol and many are in need of drug rehab.

According to the 2007 Student Health and Risk Prevention Report

• In Grade 6 (age 12/13) 14% of students have drunk alcohol and 10% have used inhalants to get high.

• In Grade 8 ( age 14/15) 22% were drinking alcohol 15% using inhalants and 6% were using sedatives

• By the time they're in Grade 10 (16/17 years old) 35% are drinking alcohol, 18% are using marijuana, 4% have tried cocaine and ecstasy.

• In Grade 12 the figures jump to almost half the kids drinking alcohol – 43%, 20% have used marijuana and 10% have tried sedatives.

• 2% of students are high or drunk while at school

• 8% have attacked someone with intent to harm

• 5% are carrying a hand gun.

Roughly 7% of the population use prescription drugs for non-medical reasons.

Focusing on the separate age brackets provides one with an even scarier vista.

12-17 years
8% of the youth in that age group misuse pain relievers

18-25 years
13% of the young adults in that age group misuse pain relievers

[Nich]

Styan you didn't even bring up the parents of these kids. Not to mention meth and teen pregnancy and STDs.

[styan]

Styan you didn't even bring up the parents of these kids. Not to mention meth and teen pregnancy and STDs.

I don't really give a shit...I just enjoy the irony.

[TS30]

In addition to everything I said before............Utah is also a kick ass party state too! Thanks Styan!

:) :) :)

[Wyoming2utah]

I don't really give a shit...I just enjoy the irony.

Compare those numbers to the national averages...

[RipRap]

You wanna read a sick story... this made me gag.
I answer my phone the other night. Chattin with my wife outside and my phone rings. I don't know the # I just answer it. Guy says, "Hey Chris, what you wearing?" I say "A pair a shorts and a long sleeve t." Not knowing the voice yet I say, "what you wearing?" as my wife looks at me strangely. This guy says, "nothing." I immediately say, "Who is this?" He says, "Cort." I say, "That is a federal offense, don't ever call me and say that shit again." He wanted to go fishing, I said "No".

I hear alot of people have been getting phone calls like that from him......you're not the first.

[Nich]

I hear alot of people have been getting phone calls like that from him......you're not the first.

I was always wondering why he was hanging out with a bunch of old dudes instead of chasing young tail. Now it all makes sense.

[Nich]

I don't really give a shit...I just enjoy the irony.

I agree with your post and say that not everything is as bright and beautiful in this state and thats you response? You feeling ok today scoot scoot? Or did you poop another hammer this morning? I guess that would make me feel a bit grouchy too!

[styan]

Compare those numbers to the national averages...

The rest of the Nation ain't:


home to millions of Mormons and their religious beliefs (that) forbid the use of drug or alcohol in any form.

[TS30]

Alright, how the hell do you make multiple quotes from multiple people in one post? They don't teach this stuff in evidence class......

[Wyoming2utah]

No, but that "forbidding" also helps Utah have lower national averages in just about all those areas you mentioned above...so, it is rosier in those areas. The ironic thing is you point those things out in a negative light yet you fail to mention the fact that Utah has better stats in most of those things than all other states...

[Nich]

Alright, how the hell do you make multiple quotes from multiple people in one post? They don't teach this stuff in evidence class......

For real I thought I'd figure it out but the time I posted 1,000 but no luck! Let me in on it PLEASE...

[Nich]

No, but that "forbidding" also helps Utah have lower national averages in just about all those areas you mentioned above...so, it is rosier in those areas. The ironic thing is you point those things out in a negative light yet you fail to mention the fact that Utah has better stats in most of those things than all other states...

Hmmm I'm a little lost. Like what???

[TS30]

Hmmm I'm a little lost. Like what???

Nich, stay on task here. We're trying to figure out how to do this cool little quote thing that the smart people have been able to figure out.

[Tyson]

Utah has exceeded my expectations

[Nich]

Nich, stay on task here. We're trying to figure out how to do this cool little quote thing that the smart people have been able to figure out.

Oh yeah sorry. We're the Utards Raggin on Utrards Right? OK but for real I what to know how to to that multi quote thingamabobber!

[TS30]

OK but for real I what to know how to to that multi quote thingamabobber!

Religion and now thingamabobbers! Great! We're never going to figure this out if you keep getting off subject!!!!!!! ;)

[styan]

The ironic thing is you point those things out in a negative light yet you fail to mention the fact that Utah has better stats in most of those things than all other states...

Utah has better stats in most of those things than all other states.....


(Negativity is in the eye of the beholder.)

[Mr Sparkle]

Don't forget byu sucks.

[Cary]

No, but that "forbidding" also helps Utah have lower national averages in just about all those areas you mentioned above...so, it is rosier in those areas. The ironic thing is you point those things out in a negative light yet you fail to mention the fact that Utah has better stats in most of those things than all other states...


Oops, perhaps all this pressure to be perfect might have something to do with this li'l stat:

...The actual rate of suicide in Utah is much higher than the national average."

http://web.ksl.com/dump/news/cc/suic0609.htm

[styan]

Don't forget byu sucks.

Nich says you can get an STD from that.

[Tyson]

Don't forget byu sucks.
Like Chris said, don't bring religion into this. (football that is!)

...go find a trib and fish it...

[Wyoming2utah]

Oops, perhaps all this pressure to be perfect might have something to do with this li'l stat:

...The actual rate of suicide in Utah is much higher than the national average."

http://web.ksl.com/dump/news/cc/suic0609.htm

Hmmm... maybe that stat is linked to this one: "The report also says Utah students attempt suicide less than their peers nationally....Now the bad news: The actual rate of suicide in Utah is much higher than the national average."

Could it be that the Utah teens who attempt suicide are also smarter than their peers in other states hence the higher success rates?

[mike doughty]

"forbidding" the more you forbid the more resentment, rebellion and spitefulness you get

[styan]

Oops, perhaps all this pressure to be perfect might have something to do with this li'l stat:

...The actual rate of suicide in Utah is much higher than the national average."



Or:

A federal study of painkiller use found Utah led the nation in nonmedical use of prescription drugs in 2004 and 2005, with 6.5 percent of the population using drugs without a doctor's order.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660200893,00.html

Parrrrrrr-Taaayyyyyyy!

[TS30]

Well Tyson, Lonnie's got a point. BYU does suck!

Will someone please teach me and Nich how to double quote?

[Tyson]

Oops, perhaps all this pressure to be perfect might have something to do with this li'l stat:

...The actual rate of suicide in Utah is much higher than the national average."

http://web.ksl.com/dump/news/cc/suic0609.htm
Cary I got to bring you to Sunday School with me. Your commentarys just what i need to wake up the back row.

[mike doughty]

Now the bad news: The actual rate of suicide in Utah is much higher than the national average." it's that damn 3.2 beer! what kind of stupid crap is that? that's why i buy mine on base so i can drink normal beer

[styan]

Will
someone
SO
please
YOU
teach
THINK
me
YOU
and
ARE
Nich
BRIGHT
how
ENOUGH
to
FOR
double
THE
quote?
LEGAL PROFESSION????

[mike doughty]

SO

YOU

THINK

YOU

ARE

BRIGHT

ENOUGH

FOR

THE

LEGAL PROFESSION????
showoff! i wish i could figure it out as well

[RipRap]

Can we at least agree that Utah has some fine looking women??

[mike doughty]

Can we at least agree that Utah has some fine looking women??

YES WE CAN! i would say that utah has the best looking women on average out of any state i've lived in. mormons do know how to breed

[TS30]

SO

YOU

THINK

YOU

ARE

BRIGHT

ENOUGH

FOR

THE

LEGAL PROFESSION????

I don't care who you are, that was funny. And no, I don't think I'm bright enough....but I'm doing a fairly decent job of faking my way through!

Yes, you are a show off too ya dick!!!! ;)

[styan]

showoff! i wish i could

figure it out as well

Hint-hint....

[BugEye]

Alright, how the hell do you make multiple quotes from multiple people in one post? They don't teach this stuff in evidence class......



Good god, will you ever arrive at the party on time?


Just mess around with it a bit and you'll get it dude. ;-)

[TS30]

I don't care who you are, that was funny.


Yes, you are a show off too ya dick!!!!

Well, what do you know? Styan, your presence today hasn't been totally worthless....good job! (that was a joke, I really do appreciate you helping me out) I no longer have to copy W2U by numbering my responses! Happy day.

[chris]

Can we at least agree that Utah has some fine looking women??


Yes we can. Top shelf. Money well spent.

[MickG]

I like Utah the best because it has the only religion that will get me to heaven. Sorry everyone else you are damned.

[Juke]

Oh yeah sorry. We're the Utards Raggin on Utrards Right? OK but for real I what to know how to to that multi quote thingamabobber!

I am offended by the term Utard. Please stop.

[Nich]

I am offended by the term Utard. Please stop.

Really? Ok if so I'll stop but I think thats the first time I've posted that...

[chris]

Really? Ok if so I'll stop but I think thats the first time I've posted that...

Nich, Nich, Nich. Dave will have a good laugh over that one.

[Nich]

Nich, Nich, Nich. Dave will have a good laugh over that one.

Ummm... Explain?

[chris]

Ummm... Explain?

Dave is Juke, do a search of Juke's posts and the term Utard.

[Mr Sparkle]

Nich says you can get an STD from that.

Nah, don't worry about it.

[Grizz]

You guys make me proud!

continue....

peace

[RipRap]

Utah rocks.

Come on now, how bad can a state be if it has a church every 1500 yards?

Rocks......

[Marty]

U of Utah rocks

I dont get the church thing

Families that fly fish together stay together

If Utah sucks so badly move

[cheech]

I fished in Utah today with my orange fishin' pole. I caught some green trout. It was pretty good, so Utah must be a great state to live in. I saw 2 churches on the way home (1.5 miles). Go Y.



If Utah sucks so badly move.

[Nich]

Yeah all you hatters move if you don't like it! Utah is my home and probably always will be. I don't care if I have my head in the sand and practice selective ignorance!

[mike doughty]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[RipRap]

Both Orem and Sandy made the Money list of Americas top small cities to live in for 2008!

If that doesn't convince you Utah is THE place to live, I don't know what will.

Plus, we have the Bees, which by the way, are the Pacific North Champions!!!!

[styan]

Both Orem and Sandy made the Money list of Americas top small cities to live in for 2008!


Gotta love Orem and Sandy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKMviP_JbV8

[Grizz]

I think getting another 1/2oz in my highball sealed the deal for me.

peace

ps: Bugsy, you're replies are really bordering on weird & infatuated. Just sayin'.

[TS30]

You know what I can't figure out? I have this issue with the shoe lace on my right shoe coming untied every time I wear pants. It doesn't matter what shoes they are or what type of pants I am wearing. Any time I wear pants, my right shoe lace comes untied.

I've had many theories thrown my way, but the most prevalent is that I just suck at tying shoes. I'm not going to argue that I am a great shoe lace tier. In fact, there is a strong possibility that I might really suck at tying shoes. But logic tells me if that was the case, I would get a fairly even ratio of left shoe lace to right shoe lace coming untied. And that simply isn't the case. In fact, I don't know if I ever even remember my left shoe lace coming untied. But literally, every day I wear pants, my right shoe lace comes untied at least once. I just can't figure it out. Any help you guys could give me on this, I would really appreciate it. As of now, it is one of natures mysteries, like big foot and the yite.

Again, any help figuring this out would be greatly appreciated.

[Nich]

Well TS you are doing something unique in the tying process on that damn right foot of yours that you don't do on your left. Just retie your shoes and look for the difference between what you do on your right and left.

[TS30]

That was some sound advice, and logically, makes complete sense. I have spent the last half hour tying, retying, and retying again....yet I can't figure out any difference. It was worth a try, thanks Nich!

[Nich]

That was some sound advice, and logically, makes complete sense. I have spent the last half hour tying, retying, and retying again....yet I can't figure out any difference. It was worth a try, thanks Nich!

LOL maybe your mentally screwing up and not duplicating what you usually do. Have your wife watch you for a couple days and find out what she sees.

[RipRap]

Or, just have your wife tie them for you and see if the same thing happens.

[TS30]

Or, just have your wife tie them for you and see if the same thing happens.

Now we're talking! "Honey, you have to tie my shoes for me from now in the name of science." This is going to be great! Thanks Rip.

Maybe we can establish some sort of routine....she cooks me breakfast every day, then after my foot rub, she puts my shoes on for me and ties them with love! Wow, I love it! We'll see how this goes over..... ;)

I will have her tie them one day and see if it happens. That is a really good idea. Inquiring minds must know what the issue here really is!

[styan]

Now you know the origin of "UTARDS"

[RipRap]

Now you know the origin of "UTARDS"

I don't know about anyone else, but I feel honored.