Bitchin' Beatis Swap!!!

[Lonnie]

March/April is quickly approaching!!! We all know what that means. My favorite hatch of the year, BEATIS!!! Anybody up for a Beatis Swap? UDII did one a few years back with great success. Since Flysmith decreed that I should run all the UTOF swaps from now on, I decided to start a new one!

Rules
1). 12 tiers.
2). Any beatis pattern you like. Nymph, emerger, adult, cripple, whatever.
3). SIZE 18-24 ONLY!!!
4). Flies will be due on FEB 26th, 2005 (my anniversary, so I won't forget.)
5). When done, Send flies to me in a crush proof box, with a SASE.
6). When the swap fills up, I'll contact everyone via e-mail with my address.

Since I tied my quill wing fly for the B.O.C. swap, I'm going to do some thing else. I think I'll have to get some CDC from Jason. If everyone gets their flies in ontime you should have them for the Green River Trip....

Good luck,
Lonnie

1). Lonnie

[Grizz]

I'm in, I'll tie a #12 Grey Riffle.

Ooops, just noticed were going 18 & smaller, nevermind.

p's

[THeBLender]

Both swaps I've done have been great and I always learn a ton.

I'm in...

[Lonnie]

Dude, Just scale it down and you're golden!

L

[south fork]

Can I play too? Do you want us to commit to a pattern up front or can I think it over for a day or two? I'll probably tie an adult version.

[Lonnie]

You guys are in. SF, take as long as you need to come up with a pattern. So long as I get your flies on time, I could care less :-)

L

1). Lonnie
2). TheBlender
3). Southfork

PS. I'd also like to request that you subcribe to the thread once you sign up for the swap.. That way you'll hopefully know what's going on. If you have you E-mail turned off on the site, please send me one so that I can get up with you off the board if things change.

[Norm]

I'm in. I need some new ideas.

Norm

[THeBLender]

Who's going to take me out on the river and show me how to use these when we're done?

[raposaNegra]

BWO Hackle Stacker.....

[Lonnie]

1). Lonnie
2). TheBlender
3). Southfork
4). Norm
5). raposaNegra
6).
7).
8).
9).
10).
11).
12).

[Lonnie]

For those of you looking for inspiration....

http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=3528604&pid=r&mode=ALL&query=BWO&t=s

L

[Sutah]

Lonnie, I'm in. Thanx

[THeBLender]

I was planning on pulling something off this site...

http://www.westfly.com/cgi-bin/listForBug?bug=2

[Lonnie]

Halfway home !! To encourage more players. The first person to get their flies in to me, and the tier of the "best looking" flies (as judged by me) will get a couple extra's of the fly I tied for the BOC swap. To spread the love, these won't be the same person...

http://www.utahonthefly.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=623

1). Lonnie
2). TheBlender
3). Southfork
4). Norm
5). raposaNegra
6). SUtah
7).
8).
9).
10).
11).
12).

[Lonnie]

If you want the extras, you better bring your A-game. Jason just called me and he wants in. He's got a KILLER pattern that he's tying. Very few folks have seen this one, and I know it's gonna rock.

1). Lonnie
2). TheBlender
3). Southfork
4). Norm
5). raposaNegra
6). SUtah
7). Jason Biot-Body CDC dun (did I get it right?)
8).
9).
10).
11).
12).

[FlySmyth]

I have no "A Game" but I am in.

FlySmyth.

PS Hopefully you will need some more carpet cleaning by then and I can drop my flies off again.

[Mason]

I have no "A Game" but I am in.

FlySmyth.

PS Hopefully you will need some more carpet cleaning by then and I can drop my flies off again.
I would like to play if there is room.

[Mason]

BTW, I will go with an Olive Sparkle Dun.

[Fishin' Junkie]

Not sure what I am going to tie just yet, but I'll think of something.

Tight Lines,

FJ

[Lonnie]

Almost Full. If you want in, you'd better jump on it....

1). Lonnie
2). TheBlender
3). Southfork
4). Norm
5). raposaNegra
6). SUtah
7). Jason Biot-Body CDC dun (did I get it right?)
8). FlySmith
9). Mason Olive Sparkle Dun
10). Fishin' Junkie
11).
12).

[nightfish]

Alright, I'll play. Dunno what yet...maybe a Yong poodle flea or something.

[Lonnie]

Nick, if you could pull off "the flea" that would be too cool.

There's one spot left. Anybody want it?

1). Lonnie
2). TheBlender
3). Southfork
4). Norm
5). raposaNegra
6). SUtah
7). Jason Biot-Body CDC dun (did I get it right?)
8). FlySmith
9). Mason Olive Sparkle Dun
10). Fishin' Junkie
11). Nightfish
12).

[nightfish]

Man, you're up early today Lonnie! Is it a powder day or something?

[Lonnie]

You can thank my dog(s) (and a touch of insomnia...)

[Lonnie]

<bump>

I just need one more swaper !! Come on, step up!!

[fulano]

This will be my first fly swap.

I'll tie an emerger pattern with snowshoe wing.

[Lonnie]

SWAP IS CLOSED !!! If you were thinking about joining, IT'S TOO LATE !!!

Flies are due to me on FEB 26, 2005. I'll try to contact everyone via e-mail. Please let us know what you are tying ASAP! I'd encourage everyone to subscribe to the thread to keep up to date on anything that goes on. Don't forget that there is a suprise to the first person that get's their flies in, so don't procrastinate!

1). Lonnie
2). TheBlender
3). Southfork
4). Norm
5). raposaNegra
6). SUtah
7). Jason Biot-Body CDC dun (did I get it right?)
8). FlySmith
9). Mason Olive Sparkle Dun
10). Fishin' Junkie
11). Nightfish
12). Fulano

[THeBLender]

Poly-wing Spinner

[Norm]

I'll be tying the "Bitchin Brigham "Yong" Beatis Emerger"

Norm

[raposaNegra]

I saw a new pattern in the LL Bean catalog I want to try (with a snall modification) so I will be tying quill body spundunn.

RN

[south fork]

I’ll be tying a BB-Hairwing dun.

[Lonnie]

I think I'm going to tie a Hi-vis Bunny para emerger.

EDIT: I just saw Fulano's fly, I'm switching....

[fulano]

I think I'm going to tie a Hi-vis Bunny para emerger.

EDIT: I just saw Fulano's fly, I'm switching....


You may want to tie it anyway so folks will have an example from both ends of the talent spectrum. My flies are not works of art to put it mildly. They will catch a trout though.

My flies are done, but I don't have your address. I sent you an e-mail through the site. Please reply to the e-mail address that I typed into the text rather than replying to that address or mailing through the site. My e-mail is in transition so I have to use my work address which I don't want to post.

[Lonnie]

Fulano,

You've got mail. (both places, I screwed up...)

L

[fulano]

Got it.

Thanks again for hosting this swap. I've gained a new appreciation for production fly tiers. I usually tie up 3-4 of a certain fly, just enough to fish with them for an outing or two depending on snags.

[Lonnie]

I got his flies in the mail yesterday. Nice work Paul. Check you're e-mail, I'm sending you a message. Blender get the first set of extras. The "bad" news for him is he's seen the pattern (But this time, we're going smaller!!!). Enjoy them. Still one set up for grabs. I still haven't figured out how I'm going to judge them yet, but it will be fair.

As for a pattern, it's still in flux for me. Here's a list of what I've tried so far (in no particular order), Hi-vis para, quigley cripple, CDC emerger, No hackle quill wing dry, CDC dry, bunny para and I'm not done yet. On the plus side, when I get done with this swap, I'm going to have several new patterns. I just finished up my flyanglersonline swap flies (it was a dry dropper swap so I had to tie a bunch of flies). Now that I'm done, I've got a bit more time to work on this swap. So far, I like the No hackle and the high vis para the best. I'm thinking about tying some variant of the no hackle, but I need to "tweak" it a bit. I've got some cool ideas that I need to work on.... ;)

L

[Mason]

Lonnie, I never got a contact from you about where to send them. If you could shoot me an email, would 'preciate it.

[Jason]

I won't let the cat out of the bag. My fly will be a surprise. It's a new pattern so I want everyone to give me their opinions once they've had a chance to check it out.

[Lonnie]

No Jason,

That was the LAST swap!!! Seriously, if you like, you can let us know if it's a dry, emerger nymph or whatever....

L

[jdubya]

Lonnie, after what you did today, you earned a float on the Green during Beatis heaven. Just let me know when (as long as it is after March 1) and I'll get the boat out of storage. You don't even have to tip the stickman. Thanks for showing up!!

[Lonnie]

Update. I've gotten three sets of flies. Just over 3 weeks left...

1). Lonnie
2). TheBlender ----> Got 'em.
3). Southfork
4). Norm
5). raposaNegra
6). SUtah ----> Got 'em.
7). Jason Biot-Body CDC dun (did I get it right?)
8). FlySmith
9). Mason Olive Sparkle Dun
10). Fishin' Junkie
11). Nightfish
12). Fulano ----> Got 'em.

[Jason]

No Jason,

That was the LAST swap!!! Seriously, if you like, you can let us know if it's a dry, emerger nymph or whatever....

L
It's a dun pattern.

[Lonnie]

It's a dun pattern.

Yes, but are they DONE yet? :)

L

[Mason]

I still have not gotten an address. Please send one.

[dblbuny84]

Yes if you will allow it...I have a pretty good bwo pattern. And I will whip finish this time. Count me in!!

[Mason]

Heck, you can take my slot. I can't seem to get an address so I will just duck out and go fishing.

[dblbuny84]

hey can I have masons spot anyone? I am dying to get in.

[Mason]

hey can I have masons spot anyone? I am dying to get in.
It's yours.

[Lonnie]

Mason,

I thought I e-mailed you last week. I'll send it again if you want, if you still want out it's your call.

Sorry about the confusion, but please understand my concern about posting my address on the web....

L

[Mason]

Mason,

I thought I e-mailed you last week. I'll send it again if you want, if you still want out it's your call.

Sorry about the confusion, but please understand my concern about posting my address on the web....

L
Oh, it's not an issue and I understand fully. I just did not know what was going one. If this guy wants in, go ahead and let him take the spot. Thanks.

[Jason]

Yes, they're almost dun.

[nightfish]

Yes, they're almost dun.

Does that mean they're "emerging" from your vise?

I guess I better get started if Jason has.

[fulano]

Did you ever get my flies Lonnie, I sent them about a week or more ago?

Fulano

[Lonnie]

Yes. I think you just missed the post....

Update. I've gotten three sets of flies. Just over 3 weeks left...

1). Lonnie
2). TheBlender ----> Got 'em.
3). Southfork
4). Norm
5). raposaNegra
6). SUtah ----> Got 'em.
7). Jason Biot-Body CDC dun (did I get it right?)
8). FlySmith
9). Mason Olive Sparkle Dun
10). Fishin' Junkie
11). Nightfish
12). Fulano ----> Got 'em.

[nightfish]

Does anybody have a preference for their spring BWO hook size? Or, rather, what's the general consensus on size? Right now, I'm planning on #20 for my swap flies.

[Sutah]

I used a size 20 and bailed out with an easy pattern, mostly because of what I had on hand and what I like for spring...... but size 18 are fine for spring and 22 for fall. imo.

[Lonnie]

Nick,

Mine are 20's but anything 18-24's are fine!

L

[THeBLender]

chicken! I used 18s.

[Lonnie]

Hi everyone. Just a reminder that flies are due on the 26th. I've only gotten three packages. Anybody gonna need more time?

L

[nightfish]

I should have mine out by the weekend.

[raposaNegra]

I need the address to mail them to.

please E-mail me off line.....

Thanks!

[Lonnie]

Send me an e-mail and I'll send it to you tonight. (I'll be away from the computer all day....)

shullln@comcast.net

[raposaNegra]

when I spend a nice blustery day that probably has a nice BWO hatch going on up by the falls, inside tying size 18 and 20 dries instead of fishing.... sigh.

[Jason]

when I spend a nice blustery day that probably has a nice BWO hatch going on up by the falls, inside tying size 18 and 20 dries instead of fishing.... sigh.
What a shame. I opted to go fishing this blustery day. I made the right decision...oh what a day.

[Lonnie]

RN,

I would have given you extra time for the RIGHT reasons ! :)

L

[raposaNegra]

you wound me to the quick!

[raposaNegra]

you haven't spun deer hair until you have spun deer hair on a size 20 dry....

[Fishin' Junkie]

Actually I started tying last night, it's just that I've been in the middle of remodeling a house, and we just moved in Yesterday. So....... my fishin'/tyin' time has been limited by the general contractor on the project (wife!). I'll get em' in the mail in the next day or so!!!!

FJ

[Fishin' Junkie]

Lonnie, please send me your address!!! Or, if anyone else has his address, please send it to me via email, and I'll get the flies on the way!!

FJ

[Fishin' Junkie]

Lonnie,

The flies are on their way!

FJ

[Lonnie]

Well, today was the due date, but I'm still missing some flies. For those of you that haven't gotten yours in yet, how about 1 more week?

L

[raposaNegra]

a couple of days ago....

[Fishin' Junkie]

Lonnie,

I sent them last Friday, so they should've arrived there today. I'm looking forward to some sweet new patterns.

FJ

[Jason]

Lonnie, I'll track you down this week and I'll give you my flies....maybe do lunch or something.

[Lonnie]

Yes, FJ I have them. I've gotten 6 sets so far, plus mine. I'm to tired right now to walk downstairs and see who has sent them in....

L

[Lonnie]

I just picked up Jason's flies. They are SOOOO cool. That leaves 5 sets left to be sent in. For the folks that haven't sent them in and want out let me know so I can make adjustments. If things REALLY fall apart, I'll send everybody one of each and you'll get any of your own extra's back....

L

[Lonnie]

OK, here's the Update. I'm going to give everyone that's not finished until friday to get me the flies. I pack up and ship out what I've gotten so far then. I might work up a few extra patterns and include them for the folks that have dropped out.


1). Lonnie ----> Done.
2). TheBlender ----> Got 'em.
3). Southfork
4). Norm
5). raposaNegra
6). SUtah ----> Got 'em.
7). Jason Biot ----> Got 'em.
8). FlySmith ----> Got 'em.
9). Mason
10). Fishin' Junkie ----> Got 'em.
11). Nightfish
12). Fulano ----> Got 'em.

I also gotten two packages from folks that didn't include their UTOF handle. Lackey and Mike. If you guys could let me know your handle that would be awesome.....

[Norm]

Did you get mine??? AKA Mike from Brigham City?

Let me know

Norm

[Lonnie]

Norm,

Yep, I got them. I also got RN's. I think Mason dropped out. I think I can cover those (floating BWO nymph.) My others are a foam wing BWO emerger. I'll send Southfork and Nick (Nightfish) an e-mail and try to find out what's up. The beatis are starting to pop so I know everyone wants/needs their flies....

1). Lonnie ----> Done.
2). TheBlender ----> Got 'em.
3). Southfork
4). Norm ----> Got 'em.
5). raposaNegra ----> Got 'em.
6). SUtah ----> Got 'em.
7). Jason Biot ----> Got 'em.
8). FlySmith ----> Got 'em.
9). Mason
10). Fishin' Junkie ----> Got 'em.
11). Nightfish
12). Fulano ----> Got 'em.

[south fork]

I sent my flies (hairwing duns) off a couple of weeks ago and sent you an e-mail to make sure they arrived. You replied back that you had received them. So unless I'm losing it you should already have them.

[Lonnie]

Hey SF,

Most likely I'm the one who's lost it. I could have screwed up (I was in a hurry this AM when I left.) Could you describe the box you sent them in (you can post or send me an e-mail...) E-mail might work better.....

L

[nightfish]

Got your message. Sorry I'm such a slacker. You'll have them by this evening.

[Norm]

It doesnt count if they have "Rainey's" stamped on the container.

Norm

[nightfish]

Nah...I tyed them myself, but they use some of Rainy's materials. I wish mine looked as good as all of Rainy's stuff does though. Maybe I'll put them in a Rainy's box to dress them up?

[Lonnie]

Nick,

How do you want to do the exchange? Mail, pick-up, or Drop off at a offsite location. Just let me know....

L

[Lonnie]

SouthFork,

I got you e-mail. I don't have your flies. I got a similar set about the time you e-mailed me an mistook them for yours. They weren't tagged, and that's where the confusion was.

So, the question is, what do we do now. Here's what I propose. I really, really don't want you to have to tie up another batch. I also really want to get the flies out ASAP. So, I'll whip out a second pattern and cover you. Send me your address and I'll send you a complete set. $hit happens. If you want to tie some up, let me know, but my opinion is you are under no obligation to do so. I guess this is why toe-tags are important.

L

[south fork]

Lonnie,

I sent you an e-mail. My e-mail is back up and running so you can reply back to me there.

South Fork

[Lonnie]

Southfork,

My wife found your flies!!!! I hope you get this before you re-tie!!!!!

L

[nightfish]

Lonnie, I left mine on your porch around 6pm. I hope they were still there...your neighbor was eying me pretty good while I stood there.

[Lonnie]

Yeah, Nick I got them. (I was out on a bike ride about that time). They are too cool. I think I'm going to send South fork some of the extras you gave me for all the trouble I caused him....

So I've got one more set to get. Dbluny84 agreed to tie for Mason who droped out. I'm picking those up friday. I should have them in the mail the same day....

1). Lonnie ----> Done.
2). TheBlender ----> Got 'em.
3). Southfork ----> Got 'em. (DOH!)
4). Norm ----> Got 'em.
5). raposaNegra ----> Got 'em.
6). SUtah ----> Got 'em.
7). Jason Biot ----> Got 'em.
8). FlySmith ----> Got 'em.
9). Dblbuny84 ---> Switched for mason
10). Fishin' Junkie ----> Got 'em.
11). Nightfish ----> Got 'em.
12). Fulano ----> Got 'em.

L

[Lonnie]

Most of the flies are boxed up and ready to go. I failed to get them to the P.O. today, but they'll be on their way tomorrow. I still need to fill out a few envelopes. Had I not spent some fairly productive time on the lower today, I would have gotten them out sooner. The fly I tied for the swap did really, really well. It was a new pattern, so this was it's inital outing. It rocked (but not as hard as my quill wing bug). BTW, I LOVE BEATIS!!!!!

Everyone should have their bugs by early next week....

L

[Lonnie]

1 More thing,

If Nick, Jason and D. Perry could all send me your addresses it would be helpful. Jason and Nick, I'll ship your's on me :)

L

[Jason]

Lonnie, let's meet up soon and I can pick up the flies.

[fulano]

Good thing your Baetis pattern rocks. I'll have to copy it when I get the flies.

Nothing in my flybox was to the liking of the baetis on the middle today, exept for the couple that I pulled the fly out of their mouths. Nymphing early before the hatch started was the only thing that kept me from being skunked.

Gotta get back out there quick.

[Lonnie]

Fulano,

I tweaked the ones I was using Friday. The only changes were a biot body and a size 18 (not a 20). Here's the pattern for you guys...

Foam Wing Emerger (FWE)
Hook Mustad c49s (size 18-24)
Tail/Shuck Olive mallard flank
Body Olive dubbing (or turkey biot)
Wing : grey 1mm foam tied spinner style and then upright to a "V". Cut to shape.
Hackle: Dun

You can vary the length of the foam wings on this fly to imitate differing stages of emergence. Leave them fairly long to imitate a dun/cripple.

[Lonnie]

Here's a photo. The photo isn't great but you guys get the idea.

[Sutah]

today. Thanks for hosting the swap Lonnie, the flies are great! If your ever in my neck of the woods and need anything, look me up.

Again thanks everyone.

[fulano]

Good swap and some really nice flies.

I was hoping each would have a recipe attached, but only 5 or 6 did. If any of you that tied a fly without a recipe would't mind posting one it would be appreciated. I'm not sure who tied which ones of the loose flies and I hate to go fish with them and inevitably lose them with only my memory of what the fly looked like.

[Lonnie]

Fulano,

Done. See Above.

[Sutah]

I tied the Parachute Adams, everything is pretty much standard except on small patterns I use 10/0. A parachute tool will improve all flies tied parachute style. I will definitely add the Snowshoe Humpback in several colors to my fly box.....nice new pattern. Thanx.

[nightfish]

Lonnie,

I'm in Colorado at the moment, but I'll hook up with you when I get back.

For everybody else, sorry I didn't tag/recipe mine. Mine is the stillborn dun with the pulled over foam wingcase. I'll get the recipe to you by email on request, as I don't have time to post it right now.

[dblbuny84]

mine was the bwo nymph with olive 8/0 thread and the tail of mallard flank dyed wood duck(tan) and for the body I used a bwo colored biot and as for the wingcase and thorax I used olive thin skin and olive opossum. I hope everyone liked it, I have had alot of success with it as of lately.BTW I used a size 18 tiemco 2487 hook for any one who wants to duplicate, but really any scud/caddis larvae hook will work.

[fulano]

Fulano,

I tweaked the ones I was using Friday. The only changes were a biot body and a size 18 (not a 20). Here's the pattern for you guys...

Foam Wing Emerger (FWE)
Hook Mustad c49s (size 18-24)
Tail/Shuck Olive mallard flank
Body Olive dubbing (or turkey biot)
Wing : grey 1mm foam tied spinner style and then upright to a "V". Cut to shape.
Hackle: Dun

You can vary the length of the foam wings on this fly to imitate differing stages of emergence. Leave them fairly long to imitate a dun/cripple.

Lonnie,
Where did you purchase the 1mm foam. I have only been able to find 2mm which I don't think would work for baetis wings. Sportsmans and Fish Tech didn't have the 1mm when I checked during the last couple of weeks.

[Jason]

Fulano, I'm not sure who makes it, maybe Wapsi, but there's a Razor Foam that's pretty darn thin and would make for some killer wings; probably 1mm think. I got a sample pack from Western Rivers that they asked me to try out. They wrap some nice thin bodies but I haven't tried it for wings. Now where did I put that razor foam.......

I thought Lonnie mentioned that he hand cut the foam he used but I may be wrong.

So who tied the Bitchin Brigham "Yong" Baetis Emerger? Great pattern. I tie one that is very similar.